Welcome back Soap Fiends, Soap opera aficionados, and Vintage T.V enthusiast! Were back for Season 4 of our favorite vintage Prime Time power houses. Brace yourselves for a sensational journey through the Golden Age of Prime Time with Erica Whitelby, creator of "Television of Yore." Prepare to unravel the mystique of character arcs and the writing brilliance that kept viewers glued to their screens. In this episode, we waltz down the extravagant hallways of "Dynasty," analyze its seventh season premiere, and celebrate the influential fashion that defined an era. Erica brings her wealth of knowledge from chronicling 14 classic shows, sharing the roller coaster ride of balancing her passion project with a full-time job, and revealing how fan contributions have shaped her website into a nostalgic treasure trove.
And just when you thought it couldn't get any more glamorous, we throw in a heartfelt book recommendation before diving back into the shimmering world of "Dynasty." We reminisce about the show's rise from an underdog to a Wednesday night staple, all thanks to the unforgettable Alexis and a team of fresh writers. Let's toast to the series that not only made shoulder pads a fashion statement but also masterfully blended cliffhangers and family drama, leaving us all yearning for just one more episode. So, don your most fabulous '80s attire, and join us for a celebration of the shows that continue to dazzle and inspire.
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Welcome back Soap Fiends, Soap opera aficionados, and Vintage T.V enthusiast! Were back for Season 4 of our favorite vintage Prime Time power houses. Brace yourselves for a sensational journey through the Golden Age of Prime Time with Erica Whitelby, creator of "Television of Yore." Prepare to unravel the mystique of character arcs and the writing brilliance that kept viewers glued to their screens. In this episode, we waltz down the extravagant hallways of "Dynasty," analyze its seventh season premiere, and celebrate the influential fashion that defined an era. Erica brings her wealth of knowledge from chronicling 14 classic shows, sharing the roller coaster ride of balancing her passion project with a full-time job, and revealing how fan contributions have shaped her website into a nostalgic treasure trove.
And just when you thought it couldn't get any more glamorous, we throw in a heartfelt book recommendation before diving back into the shimmering world of "Dynasty." We reminisce about the show's rise from an underdog to a Wednesday night staple, all thanks to the unforgettable Alexis and a team of fresh writers. Let's toast to the series that not only made shoulder pads a fashion statement but also masterfully blended cliffhangers and family drama, leaving us all yearning for just one more episode. So, don your most fabulous '80s attire, and join us for a celebration of the shows that continue to dazzle and inspire.
If you love Soaplore, check out
Televisionofyore.com for a blow by blow recap of iconic t.v
Join the Vintage Primetime Soap Opera Social Club on FB
Hey guys, welcome back to South Glory official gathering place for newbies, novices and OD die hard fans of the Golden Age of Prime Time. Today we are jumping back into our regularly scheduled programs. We are watching Dynasty, dallas and Falcon Crest, and it's a season premiere. Season 4 is underway. I've been sitting on this interview for a couple of months now and it goes long, long overdue. I simply can't wait another moment plus. I'm ready to jump back in. So sit back and enjoy this interview with the author of Hello Vision of your, erica Whitelby. We talk about everything from the character's pro to the character art, to the writing process, to getting confused sometimes when you watch one too many soap operas. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, this is the season 4 kickoff of.
Speaker 1:Soap Floor. All right, welcome back to Soap Floor. Look who we have again. We have Erica Whitelby. Hey Erica, hey Jen, how are you doing? I'm good? Full disclosure Erica is a saint. This is the second or third or 15th time We've tried to do this this morning. All systems seem to be ready, and I think we are too. I think we're good to go, so I didn't get to ask you this last time like I wanted to. Last episode Erica joined us on was the Dallas, episode 23. We're at jockstrile, I think Jockstrile part 2. Part 2. Okay, I forgot to ask you Erica's whole website. We've discovered that you do 14 different reviews, Not time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, yeah, in total right now. Well, some are finished, Some are in the process of being written, but, yeah, right now there's 14 shows that you could choose from to read the detailed recaps of it, just the show. The site just kind of kept spiraling out of control once I realized there's all kinds of shows I want to watch and revisit and write about. So, yeah, and you said you started 10 years ago. I think it's been 10 years. You know, honestly, I just I never. I think it's been at least 10 years, if not more, and it just kind of started when I was just writing reviews of Beverly Hills 9 and 210, because you know what is more iconic than that show and love it, and so I just started writing because there really weren't detailed reviews on it anywhere.
Speaker 2:So I just started doing that show and eventually, you know, I started really getting into a number of seasons and I realized I'm going to be done this sometime soon. And then what am I going to do? Because I really enjoyed it, and then I expanded to, excuse me, dynasty. And then I had to change the domain, because I think my original domain was something like Beverly Hills recapscom and I thought, well, that's not going to work, so I'm going to have to expand this whole brand.
Speaker 2:So I just decided to just call it television of yore because, just you know, I wanted to revisit shows that were off, that had been off the air for a long time, and just go back to the 90s and the 80s and, just you know, just revisit what shows were like back then. The scripts, the hair, the decor, all that stuff is just so much fun. And then there was just so many shows that I wanted to do. You know, I just and a lot of my posters, my visitors, would make recommendations. One person said, well, you have to do it. You know, you absolutely have to. And so I kept getting suggestions. I'm like, yeah, man, I just kind of got a little out of it. I feel like a bit enough more than I could chew at this point.
Speaker 1:I understand, I do. I totally get that, eric, and you're so right. I'm glad to hear that you started with one idea and then it just grew and then it's just like okay, well, how do I? Television of yore is a perfect name because now you can squeeze. Anything that's not on the air perfectly goes into that. I struggle sometimes when I say shows of the 80s, 90s and early 2000s, because I do have shows from the 2000s that I want to do, like 20, you know, 2004, 2002. But you're right, it does. It starts to you don't realize what you're getting into. Sometimes, until you're into it I'm like, oh, this is kind of hard to juggle, I know, and I still get people making suggestions.
Speaker 2:I'm like, okay, you have to stop, because I can't. I mean, I'm a team of writers to do this, but right now it's really just me. Maybe in a good week I can maybe write three. That's kind of a lot like three recaps a week. So, yeah, it's, it's, it's a turtle, you know, it's it's. You know I'm the turtle in the race. It's just, you know, slowly, I just, you know, write one recap at a time and eventually, you know, they do, they do add up.
Speaker 1:So oh yes. So you said you started out with 90210. Were you doing three a week from that? How often were you posting then?
Speaker 2:It varied, you know, depending on my you know availability, which because I do actually work full time, so it depends on how busy I was, but I think I would. I think the most I was ever able to do was four a week, and that was if I had a lot of free time and yet, like you know, not as much, you know, going on in the evening. So probably four a week, but it's typical. It's more typical to do two recaps a week. That's, that's about what I can maintain and then keep the rest of my life going, Absolutely.
Speaker 1:I work full time as well and I understand that For those of you watching, I do keep Erica's. Her website is in the show notes so you can just click and go there. Could you walk me through your process? Do you schedule you keep? How does that all work for you? Oh gosh.
Speaker 2:Well, what I, you know, I think I've sort of fine tuned the process over years. When I first started, I mean, I was literally sitting in front of a TV set with a you know a DVD player and I put in my this was like wait 10 years ago, and I would like really literally watch the shows. And then I would like, you know, tap on my, tap it out on my laptop, just just make the notes like, just literally just note down what happens, just, you know, really raw any humor in there. And I'm pretty much doing the same thing now. I do tend to download the shows from the Apple app If they're there okay.
Speaker 2:Not every show is, you know, not. Sometimes shows are only on DVDs, so that's a bit of an added challenge. But anyways, however it works, I will watch the show and at the same time I will type just the notes, what actually happens, scene to scene. Nowadays I do it directly into my. Like the web software I use Weebly Weeblycom. It's highly, really great.
Speaker 2:It's a, it's like a content manager where you can integrate blogs, you know, into your website, and basically each of my television shows is its own blog, and then I have a series of blogs that are kind of going together to make up the website. So I just write the notes directly into the blog. I don't publish it, obviously, and then we know, once it's done, I do try to integrate photographs of, you know, the shows here, and it's just just to add a little spice and humor, because some of them I mean you just, you really just need the visuals sometimes, yeah, but yeah, and then I just sort of find too like once I have the raw notes, I might do a few episodes at once just writing the raw notes, and then I'll just go in and start shaping it and just writing it and, you know, making it sound smoother and maybe adding some sort of whatever observations I might have in there.
Speaker 1:Yes, and Eric goes to my scene.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, it's a scene, yeah, and it takes I don't know, depending on some. You know, some episodes are smooth, some are a little more challenging. I'd say maybe about six hours of peace. You know, all told to write a recap. So yeah, but that's the part I love. I mean, I really, you know I'm not writing the runouts is not my favorite thing, but once I start adding the humor and you know, just really shaping the writing and fine tuning and editing, that's the fun part for me. So yeah, that's the part I love.
Speaker 1:Yeah, six hours, wow, and you can get four out, so you're so. So how do you do you watch more than one show at a time and go back?
Speaker 2:Typically, yeah, I mean I think I won't do any more than two at a time, because then I kind of my memory fades you know like I need to freshen my mind.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like, so I'll watch an episode and I'll write the notes as I'm watching it, like I'm literally typing while I'm watching, and then, if I have time, I'll then do another one. Right then, and just you know, watch it, type, type, type, and then that's about it. I will try to only do two at a time and then I will go and start writing them up and just start writing the final drafts. Yeah, and that's about. Yeah, if I had to guess about like for an hour long show, like Dynasty it's about, I would say it like from beginning to end. It's about a six hour process.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Roughly that. Do you ever get confused? Have you ever started writing one and got about halfway through and thought, oh wait, no, that happened on the next one.
Speaker 2:You know what is really helpful? What I used to do back in the day was I think I was trying to do too much, where I would do a Dynasty episode, then a Dallas episode, then a Sex and the City episode, and then a 902, and then it was like, ok, I can't keep straight all of these storylines of characters. So what I've really started to do now is just focus on one show and write the entire season, and that way, like when things happen in the script that maybe like something relevant occurred two episodes ago, it's fresh in my mind and I can just I can reference it better. I feel like it runs smoother when I do that. Otherwise, when I try to jump to too many shows at once, it takes more time because then I have to go back and reread what I wrote. You know right, yes, so now I just focus on one show at a time, you know, and that way, and then it just seems more seamless, at least for me, I agree.
Speaker 1:I think that makes a lot of sense. Speaking of reading, what books are you reading right now? Seems like writers or readers.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm a librarian, I should disclose so, oh, yes, that's awesome. So all kinds of books, well, and I should say I do like reading Like kind of the gossipy stuff. Right now I'm reading that. I just finished reading that book about the royal family. It's called Endgame.
Speaker 1:Oh, I saw that, yeah, so is it worth, is it good?
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, I mean, well, I love royal gossip. So, yeah, I mean I enjoyed it. So I thought the writing was pretty good. I you know, as a like, as a book to read, I thought you know it was well written and yeah, so I enjoyed that one. One of my favorites that I've recently finished is it's called A House in the Sky and it's by a young. It's a young Canadian woman. She was trapped in Somalia for over a year and she wrote the story and she eventually got released. But, yeah, it's quite a harrowing book and it's extremely well written. I think she partnered with the New York Times author, I think A House in the Sky. Yeah, a House in the Sky, amanda Lindhout, that's the name of the young woman. The young woman whose story is about. It's probably one of the best books I've read. It's just just for the, for the fear, like pure adrenaline stress of it. I mean it's just, if you like, it's quite a, it's quite a story and it's very well written. So, yeah, I would recommend that one.
Speaker 1:Awesome. So, dynasty, I decided to put on a couple of pearls or whatever.
Speaker 1:Very appropriate, very appropriate. I was going to pull out my crystal and I realized I don't have any crystal. I don't have the fancy glass. I don't even have pearls At least I definitely think pearls but I thought it's the best I could do. I don't have any Zha Zha earrings or anything at the moment. Today, erica and I are going to review the season for opener. Yes, and in preparation for this, I went back and looked a little bit. Dynasty loves a cliffhanger, I guess, is the word I'm looking for. Yes, they do, they do. You're on season seven currently.
Speaker 2:I have just begun season seven. I'm about five episodes in yes.
Speaker 1:Okay, without spoiling, of course, you would never spoil, I know that, but do they continue that with their season finale and season openers, is it they do?
Speaker 2:I think it's kind of almost like a trademark of the show, where and I will say that I watched the last several episodes leading up to season four, and this is typical of all the seasons I've seen so far is they basically telegraph, like I think you know, once they're about four episodes away from the finale, it's like okay, we got to start telegraphing what's going to happen in the finale and like, if it's almost going to be killed, well, we have to round up a few suspects and have them do things that make it seem like they could be the culprit.
Speaker 1:Right, that's changed. Yeah, you know, and I thought the end of season three season three to me was a little bit slow I guess I can talk about that now weird, but it was, I don't know. I found that I've forgotten most of it Even when I went back to watch. I just there was not a lot. I don't feel like season three was very story driven.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the biggest thing that happened, I guess, is Steven's mummified recast. I mean, that was sort of a high guess highlight, if you want to say, of season three. Yeah. And then, like I didn't really watch, like obviously I've watched the entire, most of the entire series, I started watching like once he returned, like when I was rewatching in preparation for this. So they kind of like, yeah, and then they focus on other things, like he's, you know, de-mummified, he takes his bandages off, he's back in Denver, and then they kind of move on to, I guess, setting up the finale, the season finale.
Speaker 1:Right, like they just kind of jump around. It's baby Danny's talked about a lot. I feel like the bit players were the bigger stars like the Colby's. The introduction of Adam, you know he was a little more interesting to me towards the end.
Speaker 2:Right, this is the season where they introduced the Colby's like spin off. Is that right? Am I getting that season right? I'm not sure. I've looked into it and I think, oh, maybe not. Maybe, I'm sorry, I think after season three, maybe I know it's.
Speaker 1:I think it comes out in 1986. Okay, and. I think Okay, well, I'm sorry I missed book, I meant Colby's. And then, like the family Right, like everyone's name is, we've got Alexis as a Colby, fallon's a Colby now, kirby's a Colby now. So they're like they're building up Colby Colby.
Speaker 2:Kirby Colby.
Speaker 1:What is Kirby?
Speaker 2:I think I just keep my maiden name.
Speaker 1:Doesn't matter what your maiden name is. Kirby is an interesting name, I'm like. Is that short for something? I can't figure that out. In my era, like in the nineties, like as a kid, Kirby was a little diamond, a little fluffy starfish thing. He was a game for Nintendo, it's like.
Speaker 2:I know that's funny. It's an odd name. I haven't heard that name before and yeah, I guess it could. It sounds like it could either be like a boy's name or a girl's name, I don't know. It definitely could yeah.
Speaker 1:Or a vacuum cleaner. I know it's a vacuum cleaner too, but for sure, one of my observations about Dynasty is that it's getting a little glossier. It's a little more glamorous. The lighting's getting better and better. As you're rewatching this, do you? You watched Dynasty growing up a little bit right, just a little oh, a lot, oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2:Oh it was. It was, I think it was Wednesday nights. I want to say on ABC it was like the highlight of, you know, prime time viewing for me.
Speaker 1:Yes, Okay, perfect, because I have questions, if you can remember. Okay, so by by the end of season three, beginning of season four, how big was the show, was it Okay?
Speaker 2:I think it was. I think that was in its prime, like I think like, well, okay, season one was kind of a dud, not much was happening. I think they needed to spice it up. So they brought in Alexis and then, I think, once she was brought in and I believe they may have gotten new writers, that really just kind of exploded. Then it started to find its footing and I think so you had season two, which was the gaining attraction. Season three sort of built on that, and then by the time season four came, it was just huge. I think it was like the number one. I think by season four it was the number one show, like originally, yeah, like ABC wanted a show to compete with the success of Dallas.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because Dallas kind of a juggernaut and they wanted something on their network that could compete, and so that's where a dynasty was sort of, you know, born, and it took a little bit. But you know that's fairly typical shows don't always, you know, find their footing right away and it kind of took a while. But yeah, by the time season four came I think it was pretty close to number one, so it was quite popular.
Speaker 1:Okay, was it still competing with Dallas?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it was beating Dallas, at least for a while, like it was. Yeah, I think it had overtaken Dallas for at least a time before, like eventually like now I'm recapping season seven and then it just like plunged to the bottom of the range. It's kind of like I think they you know it's a case of where and this was typical back then they just went on too long, like they just kept the show on the air and they probably should have pulled the plug after season five, maybe six tops, but they never should have gone on to season seven, clearly.
Speaker 1:That has to hurt to come out on top and then just, you're right, just a slam into the concrete. I did notice at the end of season three, Alexis, her lines were perfect. She was clearly the star by that point. So, with that being said, do you remember any kind of tidbits or any gossip surrounding the show circa that time or at the beginning of season four? End of season three.
Speaker 2:I don't know specifically that. I think in general the gossip I read was that the set was, like it didn't seem like Dallas where people really kind of loved each other Very collegial. I think there was a kind of some backbiting going on. Yeah, I don't think it was. I know there was a lot of like cases where actors would try to negotiate higher salaries and like Alexis, I feel well, actually this comes after season four, but she was not in one of the season premieres because she was negotiating her salary and she just wasn't in the episode and it kind of made no sense that she wasn't in the like. I think it was season six where she just wasn't there, was negotiating a higher and I assume she got her money.
Speaker 2:But there's been cases where they just then fired, like you know, not the leads, but because they asked for too much money. They just got smarily fired. Oh wow, I know there's been a series of bad, really bad recasts Like well, steven, you can call Steven a bad recast. I mean I never really liked the character at all, even the original guy. He's kind of like a sour pus and I don't know.
Speaker 1:That angst is devastating. He's a bit much, I agree. He was my favorite for a while, like first two episodes.
Speaker 2:Like he was nice. I guess he was sort of the nice you know sibling of the Carrington's, but he just seemed so miserable all the time. And then when he was recast into the much taller, fluffier-haired actor he was like really sour pussy, yeah. But so that was a weird recast because they that was the first, I think that was like the first major recast where they had to they felt they had to explain like why he looked so different. Oh, his face was in the oil rig explosion whereas like and I put, he's much taller now Like they didn't quite explain, you know, his height difference. But whatever, I mean I think when you're watching Dice do you can suspend reality and just sort of go with it. And then when they recast not to spoil, but they I'm sure you know viewers know they recast the Fallon character and then the Amanda character comes along later and those were really terrible recasts.
Speaker 1:They just, they just didn't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it kind of was distracting. I think that the show kind of suffered once, like I think it comes into season five or so and later, where the recast just started to take a toll on the show and it just was not just doing as well on the ratings more because, you know, and I think it maybe would have been better if they had just killed those characters off and just had like dramatic deaths. That might have like improved the ratings somewhat. But they just refused to do that and I just think it took its toll after a while and like nobody really wanted to watch a bunch of recast characters.
Speaker 1:It changes the dynamic for sure. I noticed between the end of this season and season three excuse me and the season opener it feels like there's something going on with Crystal and Alexis. Like Crystal was obviously in my opinion. She was cast to be the Ick girl. We thought Crystal was going to be the star of season one.
Speaker 1:When Alexis shows up, she starts kicking out in dust. It's apparent that nobody's in. I was never interested. Crystal crying and being sappy all the time got really, really boring and I wonder if that was kind of the case with the audience as well. But you can kind of tell that Crystal's character is now. She's a little stronger, she's a little more vocal, she wants to stand on her own a little bit. At least the last two episodes Season finale and then season opener Well, we'll get into that. I'm jumping the gun a little bit, but it feels to me like there was something going on there, at least between them two, the two of those two ladies. Everyone else is a little bit player, and maybe Jeff. Jeff seemed to be the star of season two.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I always think I guess, and certainly in season one, crystal was a giant bore. I mean, really, just her whole identity was going to be wrapped up and being married to Blake and who otherwise is just the most horrible husband anyway, yeah, he was. I mean I was going to go, I have sort of a tangent about him. But in terms of Alexis, I mean, I really think the show needed some kind of infusion of just something like just some kind of energy that just, you know, the original cast was just not really bringing to the show and I feel like if they had let it go on, it would not have made it to season three. Like they really needed yeah, they really needed something.
Speaker 2:Like you know, joan Collins just totally, just changed the dynamic of the show, like for the better. I mean, she's certainly my favorite character of everyone and she, you know, joan Collins, was just brilliant because she, I think she knew exactly what she was getting into and really just went with it. You know, just loved all the joy, all the campiness, the you know, the drama, like the head shaking as she delivered lines. I mean she just seemed to embrace all that and it just made the show super fun to watch.
Speaker 1:She does seem like she's having the most fun. She seems like the most life-hearted. She's definitely not taking herself too seriously and it definitely it shows up. Well, I do have a theory about Dynasty as well, as I call it the cleanup on aisle, whatever. So if it's season one cleanup on aisle, it's cleanup on aisle two. They love to tell you the backstory, or? You know, dynasty does a lot of showing or telling, not showing. You know, in books they tell you to show, not tell. Dynasty is going to tell you everything in a very long dialogue that has absolutely nothing to do with anything, but there's a lot of that and I feel like most of it comes from Blake, and he does it a few times in this episode, which I guess we should probably dump right into. Okay, I would love it if you would leave this. I love the way you recap things.
Speaker 2:So this so the season three finale left us with Alexis and Crystal being trapped in a burning cabin which, and we don't know we see like sort of an unidentified man like walking around, like dumping gasoline around the cabin and then padlocking the door so that they can't escape. So this unseen man who actually I don't even remember who it is, so I can't even spoiler at this point. I don't know if this like it's he. It's obviously a man. I don't know if he realized that Crystal was in there too. Like we're assuming that, like Alexis is the target, because, you know, nobody hates one of probably the killer, but Alexis is often the target of people's.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so six people. This episode, that episode.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and season like I do want to go back a little bit to season like the very end of season three. We've assembled a number of culprits like possible culprits for this. And then there's Neil Lane, who is like a congressman who she has found dirt on and has gone public with it, so he's shamed, you know, in front of his political party and his career is over. So he's really mad at Alexis. The second culprit is Joseph Anders, who is the major domo or the man servant. Yeah, so he's mad at her because, alex, she's threatening to tell Kirby what a train wreck her mother was, there's some such thing. Yeah, I can't wait to get into that. Yes, so he's mad at her and he's, like, threatened her. And then there's Morgan has, who is the investigator, the private investigator she hired and he basically asked her for like $45,000 for to pay off a gambling debt. And she tells us she told him no way, get out of my place and, by the way, change your suit because it's ugly.
Speaker 1:She told him to stop quoting old TV shows. It was awesome Wow.
Speaker 2:Okay. So then he goes away really mad. So it's like okay, could be him. And then also Mark Jennings. He wanted Alexis to come back to the La Mirage with him so that she could tell, they could tell Fallon together that when she pretended to have sex with him, I mean that that's fun.
Speaker 1:That scene was so weird because I'm like, okay, which she pretended once, but you actually did so which he did, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know what. They have sort of a main thing going on. But then he, you know, I guess, lost interest or whatever you know, didn't call her anymore. So she was sort of nift. And then Mark started flirting with Fallon and so, you know, alexis didn't like that much so she like pretended to, like she actually like jumped in the sack and while Mark was showering and Fallon just happened to at that moment enter the room and then make the assumption that you were having an affair. So Mark wanted Alexis to, you know, tell Fallon that it was all just her, like a setup, and she basically tells him to get lost. So he's also that at her. Okay, so we have all of these, you know, this list of culprits who may have set this cabin on fire. By the way, I mean, if you look at the footage of the cabin, it's completely engulfed in flames, like to me it looks completely unsurpassable.
Speaker 1:Right, I agree, I was thinking it was down to the studs. Things are falling apart. It looks like die hard. I expected Bruce Willis to come running through. It was a total loss, I thought, but magic.
Speaker 2:But I did notice, like in that scene, like Crystal has a stunt double with which they didn't really do the hair very well. Did you notice that? She's like in there, like you know, like trying to put the fire out?
Speaker 1:I made sure to record that one like far in advance, so that I don't mix the two out. And that was one of my comments. Is that the stunt doubles are worth the price of admission on dynasty? They really don't care.
Speaker 2:They don't. Well, I think that you know again, I think I mentioned this on a you know on our previous podcast, where I don't think that the producers, directors, ever expected people to rewatch the show over and over and, like you know, like frame it, like I do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that you said that and that that has changed the way I view things. Now. I'm like, okay, well, they never thought we were ever going to see this again, so you can pretty much say whatever you want. That was great insight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so anyway. So Alexis, some, she hits her head and has a very cinematic like knocking out like she. So she's not unconscious, so she's just sort of laying there amid the flames. So she's obviously marked. Jennings like burst through the door of the cabin and sees the crystal is there, so he rushes her out. But Crystal says that Alexis is still in there, and so he runs, picks her up and carries her out as the cabin is burning to the ground. So yeah, just it's amazing to survive that. But okay, I just believe that. So then To the hospital and let's see. Okay, so in the meantime so that's happening Jeff and Kirby returned back to the mansion and now Kirby is all freaked out.
Speaker 2:Now again, I have to give some context. She, in at the end of season three, learned that she was pregnant. She's happy because she's, you know, just assuming that it's Jeff's baby, jeff who she recently married. And when she goes to see the the doctor for a checkup, he tells her that oh no, you're three months pregnant. So she has a flashback of when Adam attacked her in. I guess it's Alexis is like penthouse.
Speaker 1:And that was really rough. I hadn't seen that, that's seen in a while, but it was very graphic. Graphic because it could be, I guess, on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, it's really like and I feel like the 80s kind of almost fetishized, like, like, like, such as assaults. They're sort of almost translated to oh, he really wants her so badly. He just couldn't help himself like without a lot on shows. They did it on general and they did it on dynasty. It's kind of a key to me, yeah it really was to watch it back.
Speaker 1:It was very uncomfortable, like wow, that's, that's rough.
Speaker 2:That was police at that point, like right right, but she's still, you know she's.
Speaker 1:It's almost like I remember that scene at one point, when she realized she couldn't get him off of her. She just kind of accepted it and just yeah with her days.
Speaker 2:So I mean, I love him, to be kind of. He's like the end. This is the character, not the actor, but he's so like intensely psychotic to me, like he just looks really like he would not want to be like alone with him in a dark alley somewhere, like his eyes were psychotic, his voice is too calm and I'm like that combination of that's a problem.
Speaker 2:And of course you know that, like, one of the major storylines of season three was if he was slowly poisoning Jeff with that mercuric oxide and eat. So he's completely like a nutcase.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's great for TV and I wonder, just right, just really quickly, I'm sorry to interrupt her be storyline. And in season three there was something that happened to her in Paris. It never comes to light.
Speaker 2:In season three they bring it up something about she hooked up with some French guy and I don't remember. It's something gone bad with some person that she hooked up with there, something to that effect and she this is right before Adam attacked her.
Speaker 1:She was. She saw them at that little flapper party that they had. It fell in the hotel, yes, or something and he mentioned, but it's like they never bring it up again. And I thought maybe that's what Alexis was was implying that she knew something about that, but it's yeah, I don't remember that.
Speaker 2:I just remember some reference to an affair that didn't end well, but then they just sort of never really mentioned it again.
Speaker 1:I right, yeah, I spent the entire season expecting her past to come back to haunt her, but it never did.
Speaker 2:It never does. Sometimes they set things up and then they just drop them, like if it doesn't, something else will go for that. Like, yeah, it's I'm sorry about. Until you mentioned it, I forgot about that, but yeah, like they did reference it. Okay, so now she okay. So she's super freaked out because she realizes that Adam is the father of this baby, not Jeff, and instead of just explaining to Jeff, her husband, what happened, it just coming clean about it which there are many opportunities to do that she just stonewall is very from getting raped again Since Jeff burst in the hotel, like that would have been the perfect time to say well.
Speaker 2:I know, and it's not like Adam hasn't had a history of being like violent and weird, Like I mean, if she had just said this happened to me, like I didn't want to tell anyone. But the problem is is, like you know, as in you know 80 soaps, there's no one tells anyone anything until it becomes like this cooker that just explodes. And so that's where this is kind of headed, I guess. So so she comes home with Jeff after her medical appointment and she's really snappish to Jeanette's, you know, she's asking where her father is and I guess he had the day off and he's not due back until evening. So Jeff kind of like takes her to the solarium. He's like what is wrong with you? You're just directing, all like weird and fidgety, and she still doesn't explain anything. She just kind of snaps back at him and then I think she just kind of storms up to her room. So she's, I'm fine, and she just storms off and Jeff is so confused as well he should be, he should be.
Speaker 1:Well, he had a character first. He's so snappish. She's very snappish.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, it's understandable that she's wigged out, but I think it would do her good to just tell somebody what happened, so she doesn't have to carry this herself. Oh my.
Speaker 1:God, especially three months early, when she gets birth.
Speaker 2:And I think that like and I'm jumping the gun and this comes up in a dream she has, but somebody's gonna notice when she delivers the baby three months early and it's like full term. You know you don't want to prepare your husband for that Like just now, Right, yeah 10 pound or eight pound six.
Speaker 2:So yeah, so she's okay, so she's keeping it to herself for now. So, as I guess, while that's happening, blake has oh gosh, blake has entered the library in the mansion where Stephen is waiting to have one of their father son chats, and I noticed that every time they have a father son chat in the library, like it never goes well, they just start arguing and Blake is mad because Stephen's gay and it's yeah Every time. Yeah, you're right, so Blake does not like. Well, even though and this is just kind of a renewed argument that they always have Blake was reminded that Stephen is gay because I guess Stephen is living with a male friend. Like they're not A friend, yeah, they're just classmates. But I guess Blake dropped all the apartment and found Chris Deegan there and just freaked out. He tries to pull Chris Deegan out of his own apartment.
Speaker 1:I was like hold on sir, sir, you don't live here, how dare you? I feel like Chris was gonna leave and I'm like, sir, aren't you a lawyer? You know, you know, you're right.
Speaker 2:I know it was so bizarre. And then Stephen like comes in and says like I guess he's worried that he's gonna kill like this one, because you know Ted Denard under some circumstances. Yes yeah, yes, season one. So, yeah, stephen is like angry at Blake for having done that. And so they argue, and I guess Blake, you know it doesn't want his grandson to live in, you know Stephen's kind of household. So and then I guess Stephen storms out and Blake says you know, I'm not done. I'm not done talking about this yet.
Speaker 1:I will say this. I've mentioned this before. I feel like I don't really know what the writing style was for gay and straight characters, but they have brought the story up 15 times. At this point, stephen came out season the first episode we ever saw. He came out and he's like I'm proud, I'm never gonna be ashamed, let's move on. He does it again in season two and then he runs away. He does it again in season two. How many times do we need to do this?
Speaker 2:It's kind of tiresome at this point, like I guess Blake just can't accept it. But then I'm not sure why Stephen just has to keep coming over to the mansion to have these arguments, because he moved out for the purpose of not having to deal with his father, which-.
Speaker 1:He's moved out like four times at this point too.
Speaker 2:Okay. So Blake, he to me does not fall in the same camp with, like, JR Ewing, tony Soprano, like any of those really likable bad guys. I don't like Blake. Like I feel like the writers are kind of all over the place with him sometimes where 100% yeah, like in season one he's he rapes Crystal, like let's not forget that happened.
Speaker 1:He did yeah, what's the pills? I forgot about that, yeah he's-. He's birth control.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he gets all mad at her for taking birth control and so he attacks her violently, which was, I mean, oh God, and then she still stayed married to him some. For some reason he's a violent felon because he actually killed Ted Denau, Like physically, like killed the guy right. So there's that he's super homophobic, he's mean to his sons, he's, I guess, okay to his daughters, but it's like, and then in other episodes he's like this kindly patriarch who's like this nice man of spurs.
Speaker 1:Like I've noticed he goes back and forth quite a bit and I hadn't forgotten the fact that he was a felon and that he was on parole and he shouldn't be able to fly to the south of France or wherever he goes. He should definitely be restricted. But it's always a little shocking to me that he attacks Stephen time and time again and it's like if you don't like his lifestyle, you don't like him being gay, whatever you think, he's not gonna be a great father because of that. What makes you think you are a good? You are a straight man who was a horrible father, a horrible businessman, a horrible husband. You didn't even raise your own children, but you're gonna yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, and, by the way, he is a horrible businessman too. Like I don't know I think it maybe comes along later Like he leverages, he leverages or over leverages himself a lot, and then, like he's just big, Like he's really quite a terrible businessman Not that I'm an expert, but it just seems like he puts himself in very vulnerable. Like I think in season three, the whole storyline of why he and Alexis are at odds is because there's supposedly gonna be a merger of Devlet Carrington and Colby Co. Probably because he screwed up, right.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm guessing he did something, I think it was the whole. Cecil was the number one in Denver. Cecil had been running everything really well and remember Blake needed to borrow money from him, so he started off on the wrong foot. But Alexis inherited this company. That's been ran well by a man who knew what he was doing, and Blake seemed to. He always seems to be floundering to me. He never really knows what to do. It seems like they bring in Jeff to make him seem like he's savvy, but I have yet to see him make a business deal for memory.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't really see Jeff have an action. A lot at the companies.
Speaker 1:Right. That doesn't make sense to me either. Like he is still working for Blake, but he owns Colby Co. It seems like it'd be in your best interest to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're competing companies, right, Right, yeah, they're competing companies. And then the kids, like Adam and Steven, like they keep going back and forth while I'm gonna work at Denver Carrington, nope, I'm out of Blake, I'm gonna work, go work at Colby Co. And then when they get out of Luxe, they keep going back and forth. It just seems like a weird I don't know. Like you think there'd be too much conflict of interest between like jumping back and forth like that 100%.
Speaker 1:I don't see how that works out. I don't even see how you could be on one the board of one or the other. I just don't see how that works.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so yeah. But that right now does explain why Blake and Alexis are at odds is because there's a merger that Blake does not want to go through and Alexis does, so that's another source of contention in season four. So okay, so Blake and Steven have their argument. Steven storms out and then Blake gets a phone call that Alexis and Crystal have been rescued from a burning cabin. I like his answer were they burnt?
Speaker 1:They were just surprisingly no they weren't.
Speaker 2:Surprisingly, they're just fine. So he rushes, gets into his limo and races over to the hospital, and it's so funny. So he rides at the hospital and he encounters Mark, who I guess he's Mark is a company Crystal and Alexis. And so Blake goes up to Mark and says you know what's going on, what's happened, what are you doing here? And Mark replies I'm here. So it's just like the oddest dialogue. Blake asks Mark, like what were you doing at the cabin? And he says oh, it's none of your business, and doesn't want him to go into Crystal's room. But Blake somehow shoves, you know, a much younger man aside. He's the only man is able to show Mark aside, horsfully enough to like get into Crystal's room and Mark's a tennis pro.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying you think I thought that too like wow really Well.
Speaker 2:he's spry. I guess I've never seen him like work out in the mansion gym, but I guess he must be very, very strong. So so, yeah, so okay. So Blake makes his way into Crystal's room and she's kind of like a bit out of it. She's got an oxygen mask on and she's mumbling Mark's name, which doesn't seem to go over so well with Blake, and then she finally wakes up and she sees Blake and she hugs him and she looks happy enough to see him. And then she tells him about the check that Alexis had offered her yeah, million dollars to get out of Blake's life. And Blake is, I guess, kind of surprised at that. And Blake wants to check.
Speaker 1:I think she can be offered 20,000.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was kind of cheap. I think she got off cheap. But you know what's funny about this? I mean, you know what I would do. I would take the million dollars and just bank it or something and then just continue doing what I want, Because really I didn't even stop you.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't let it stop me either. I mean, you don't even need to be proud at that moment. She wants to start her own life. So hey, a million dollars in 1983 is probably like five or six million now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Well, I mean, I would just take it at a bank to just have a little money cash on the side or build up a trust for yourself, but okay, so she turned it down. Blake says that he wants her to come home once she's released from the hospital. But Crystal argues that she wants to stand on her own two feet, at least for a couple episodes and find out who she is. And she's gonna have to do this at the La Mirage and has to love herself. And he's like, okay, well, I guess you should rest in the meantime and just kind of let's that go for the moment. So now Alexis. Meanwhile, Alexis looks like she fared worse in the fire because she's got a bandage over her head and some like white goo on her face.
Speaker 1:Right, and is that burn cream? I was trying to figure out what that's, I guess.
Speaker 2:So I guess there's yeah, I think she might have burned her like two parts of her face. So she's got some white you know cream to, but you know what's I mean? She otherwise looks fine, Although she's very worried. She feels this goo on her face and Steven is sitting there and she's asking like my face, my face, you know how do I look? And he assures her that she looks just fine, which I think after an episode she like completely recovers. It's actually from the burn, oh yeah, and she also has a concussion. And so Steven is curious because he says that he heard that Crystal was at the cabin because she was told that he, Steven, was going to meet them both there to talk about Danny or whatever, which never really made any sense to me. Like, why would you have to go to a cabin, Right?
Speaker 1:I couldn't figure that out. I couldn't figure out what her. I guess the whole point was to get her there to lure with the money. But the story didn't make sense to me, like why not? Why did this need to be in person? What can this be? But why?
Speaker 2:did this need to be at a remote cabin? It could have. Just I can't just talk in the room at the lomarage. Like you know, you just like get the privacy for the lomarage as well.
Speaker 1:Two, yeah, two hours out of the way. Come talk to me, yeah.
Speaker 2:It seems like this really, and it seems like kind of a like a rustic cabin, I don't know who's, I guess it's the Carrington's cabin, but it seems like very rustic and very far away, Right, so, but anyway. So, but Alexis pretends that she has absolutely no idea what Crystal would have been doing at that cabin, which is odd because you know, this is going to come out like in a day or two anyway.
Speaker 1:But she was the one who she was the last person. Yeah, she had to call the hotel, so she had to go. You know, front and desk they're obviously going to look for her and it seems like she was a random plan. It just it didn't. I felt like she could have played that a little better. Should have played up more on the fact that he embarrassed that Blake had embarrassed her in front of Alexis. She should have played up on that a little bit more, but she was just like, okay, you're mad, take this money.
Speaker 2:But yeah, it was kind of contrived, I mean the whole like going to the cabin. Okay, I mean, I guess it gives the killer, the attempted killer, an opportunity to try to burn Alexis to death. So I suppose that's what had to happen. But yeah, so I guess you know, with Dynasty you have to sort of accept these things, you know, as part of the policy.
Speaker 1:Is there cleanup on aisle four? We'll just accept it, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, please, the burn didn't do it. No, it didn't go off Okay. So Adam arrives at the hospital and Steven tries to stop him from seeing Alexis because she needs to rest. But Steven kind of pushes past him and barges into Alexis's room. Now Alexis is kind of freaked out because and a little bit of backstory she threatened to cut Adam out of her will at the end of season three because he I didn't even know why, I think because he just he didn't like Steven and Alexis got mad at him. He poisoned.
Speaker 1:Jeff. Right, she, she assumed on season three Stephen was going to go see Claudia at the Saniteria and they got into a little argument where Adam was basically saying why do you keep bringing people into your life that are going to cause trouble? I can't let you do that. Alexis assumed he made a homophobic comment and she told him that she was going to cut him out of the wheel. He was just like for what? But I always thought their relationship she's very loving to Stephen and she's keeping Adam on a short leash and I had kind of forgotten it was because of Jeff. Even this episode I'm like she's so mean to him, but I understand why.
Speaker 2:Well, she even says to him in the hospital, because she basically tells Adam, I think that you could have been the one who tried to kill me in the cabin. And he said well, how can you possibly think that? And she reminds him well, I don't know, because you tried to kill Jeff with the paint, like I wouldn't put anything past you, which is probably an accurate assumption today.
Speaker 1:That reminded me too, because I've always seen him as the same person. I'm like I love that Adam is Blake's crazy, but her savvyness, I love that. And I had sort of forgotten that she knew about Jeff. So I was like, oh okay, that makes sense. Why is she so short with him all the time?
Speaker 2:Like she's keeping an eye on him. He's got issues, for sure. But then Adam well, I find this interesting. So Adam points out that everything he's ever done has been for the purpose of winning her love, which, like, yeah, that tracks, because it just seemed like he craves her approval, as well as Blake's and you just you know this is a theme that runs throughout dynasty. It also runs throughout Dallas. Like these grown children are so invested in getting their parents approval. It's really, it's odd.
Speaker 1:It's very odd. You're right and I had kind of a question when he said that. But I think you're right, he's, he has always done things for her, but he does, he's reacted. He's Blake Harrington's son, but I see that. I noticed that on Dallas too, like JR is obsessed and Bobby, they're obsessed with their daddy.
Speaker 2:Even their mother, like Obama, wouldn't like this. I mean, like he did. You're like 40 years old, I mean you really?
Speaker 1:are and there's 50 acres Could you move to? You know, move an acre away, half an acre away.
Speaker 2:Gosh, I know like, yeah, this, this weird, like these daddy issues or like mommy issues, like they creep up in this show as well, which, yeah, and maybe that's why Steven keeps coming back to have arguments with Blake, because he really, really craves his approval of his lifestyle. It's like dude, just stop, I mean right, I think he's put his life as a gay man completely happy.
Speaker 1:And you know, and a good businessman. Apparently he seems to be good at business, steven. Steven is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's doing his reports, I guess, on oil opportunities, drinking opportunities. Ok, so let's see, so, adam. So so Adam is kind of upset by that conversation and he runs into Blake by the elevator of the hospital and asks if they could maybe go out for a drink and have an amical father son chats and Blake kind of perks up because you know he says, oh, it'd be nice to have a friendly conversation with at least one of my sons, so sure, so they go out for a drink, which happens off camera. We don't really ever see this drink. Now, in the meantime, a police detective, or I guess a lieutenant of Fred Merrill, comes by the hospital to see Alexis. And now, this is a fun fact, this police officer was the original Gary on Dallas.
Speaker 1:I was going to tell you, yes, I remember him I was. When he came in the door I was like, oh my God, that's Gary, but I'm not a fan of gear. I haven't started Knox Landing, I plan on starting that over break. But yeah, I remember him throwing that fit over the milk in Dallas. Well, you know and I was watching, not the finale, the next to the finale, I guess, episode 24 of Dallas. Mark is in that as a cowboy.
Speaker 2:Is he really?
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's Sue. Ellen gets snockered at the bar Like she is super messy and they have to call Bobby and Ray and it's, it's, it's Mark, without the Bert Reynolds stash. I don't think I ever picked up on that. Yeah, so he just kind of shuffle of the actors around from time to time.
Speaker 2:Well, I think they were sort of airing around the same time, I mean years apart. But yeah, like so you might see some crossover with some of these like background characters, yeah, I love it. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, that's because I knew that guy, like I knew that the police detective looked familiar and I I had to like think about it for a minute and then it came to me, literally just popped in my head that's Gary David Acroyd.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was surprised when the second Gary came and they opened the door and he was blonde. I was like, oh, I guess, I guess they think that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so OK. So he comes in to talk to Alexis and asks her for a list of her enemies, like who might have said, said, tried to set her on fire. And so now on camera at least, she gives him two names, the first being Neil, saying that he's a disgraced congressman and he's already tried to choke the life out of her once. So you know, it's reasonable to see him. I'm glad, but it's Well. Merrill asked like well, did you report this to the police? And she says well, I'm reporting it now.
Speaker 2:She's so rich, like like I'm telling you now Tim, yeah, so he's, he's, he's one of the suspects, and the other one that she gives him at least that we see on camera is Morgan Hess, who wanted, like, for over $40,000 to pay off his gambling debt and he got really ticked off. So those are the two names. I don't know if she names other people, but I found the one. The one line that just made me laugh out loud was so the detective asks her if there's any other suspects and she gets like Alexis, gets a frightened kind of far away, look in her eyes and says it's frightening to think how many people out there hate me enough to want me dead. But you think that maybe the problem is you like, if, like, dozens of people want you dead, like maybe you're doing something wrong Right, if you're, maybe you get to about four or three people is kind of scary like, oh, and maybe my son also and maybe my ex, like yeah, I wouldn't, maybe cancel, I wouldn't hurt you.
Speaker 1:That's a lot of people, well, and I think she does, she does.
Speaker 2:She must mention Blake. I'm jumping ahead here but like the police do go to question him. So I think it just happens off camera. But she must mention Blake because they're going through that argument about the merger, so he's also a suspect. So okay. So back at the Carrington mansion. I think it's a little bit of a lot, so okay. So back at the Carrington mansion, fallon and Blake, just kind of you know. They say good morning, she's about to go to work. They gush over the baby and like little Blake, how cutie is. And blah, blah, fallon tells Blake she'd really like it if Crystal came back to the mansion, because everybody's leaving, like Kirby and Jeff or house hunting Stevens moved out and then Crystal's gone. So I don't think anyone's really left except like Fallon and Blake, right Along with all the servants.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the servants keep multiplying. I notice there's dozens of background servants.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, like this. Well, I guess you would need an army of them to keep that place running, but it seems like a waste for like two family members to be living there. Okay, so Blake, Blake heads off to work and then Fallon goes to the solarium where Kirby is having her breakfast and she's you know, again, she's kind of short and you know she snaps it. I guess she's kind of standoffish towards Fallon because she's still freaked out about her baby daddy being Adam and, like Fallon, assumes that Kirby's jealous because, like, fallon and Jeff get along really well and Kirby keeps sort of running into them like laughing together. So she assumes that Kirby's jealous of their friendship and you know sure it's her that she doesn't want Blake or, excuse me, she doesn't want Jeff because she divorced him and they're just friends. And Kirby denies that's what she's upset about and then leaves the room because she doesn't want to, I guess, talk to Fallon anymore. And so she's sick because of the baby.
Speaker 1:Fallon is still so annoying to me? She really is, she's just. I find her just distracting and not a good way, Fallon, even now even on the third.
Speaker 1:Yeah, You're not a Fallon. You're not a Fallon fan. I'm not. I think I was disappointed. I thought she would be more interesting than she is. But it goes back to that whole she's so obsessed with Blake. I just find it kind of one note you have all this other stuff going for you and it's constantly about you know, daddy, and please call her, I can't deal with her and daddy, and I liked her better, like in season one, you remember.
Speaker 2:she was kind of a spoiled brat and she hated Crystal and it was having an affair with the chauffeur. Like I just I liked her better than she was so much more fun. Like I wish she had kept back some of the like, the brattiness, just to sort of spice up the game, because she's just, she's too nice, like she's almost too far the other way.
Speaker 1:I agree they do the same thing with her with it. Now her and Crystal are best friends. I did like her. She was a brat, but she was more exciting. She definitely was. At least she was causing trouble and now she's just making through. Her dad is okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's like they're almost like too much on Alexis' shoulders, like Alexis is the one who's always causing trouble, like it would be nice if her daughter was kind of more like her. We know, like she'd cause her own set of things.
Speaker 1:Right, which is why I like Adam. I feel like Adam is carrying the torch. We need someone to stir up things, so I do enjoy him, but yes, she's. She's disappointed me for the last two seasons.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she. Well, maybe you'll like the recast. I mean, I'm interested to see eventually, like when you get to the season where she's recast, what you think of that change that I would be curious to know what you think about that.
Speaker 2:I'm excited. So, thank you, have that to look forward to. So, um, so Blake arrives at Denver, carrington and he finds the police lieutenant, gary Ewing, waiting for him. So he's been, he's been named as a suspect I guess Alexis must have dropped the name and he asks him I guess, what do you know about the fire? And Blake in all honesty says he really knows nothing about it. He wasn't there, I think, at the time he was talking to Andy Laird. So he's got a pretty good alibi, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And the detective wants to discuss. Like Neil McVane, blake says he doesn't know anything about him, or he basically refuses to really tell him anything and says he just directly talked to yeah, the police should probably just go talk directly to the suspect and says he's never heard of Morgan Hess. So the police detective doesn't have much to go on with that conversation. And it's weird because, like, so they have that conversation. I get the feeling things are happening off camera because something happens later About Mark, where I guess that I don't know if Blake accuses Mark of being a suspect, but it seems to come up later, but they don't really show it. So that's sort of a weird point of confusion for me.
Speaker 2:Right and then Lieutenant was super aggressive yeah the whole time with not a lot, Not a lot to go on. So we're back at the hospital, Alexis is I guess Jeff is visiting with Alexis and she's she's sort of fretting about her, all her burn, you know marks and cream. Jeff was like, yeah, you look fine. I was like who's running Colby code? Because you're late up in the hospital. I don't want Adam to run it because the psychopath, so it should be me.
Speaker 1:So this, he owns half of Colby code because of that was yeah, that was a deal with Cecil he, yeah, he and Alexis split it, and if Jeff had any kids, they got X amount and she got yeah.
Speaker 2:So Jeff makes her phone, I guess he dials like Adam's number and then gives a phone to her and says okay, like you have to tell Adam that like I'm running Colby code now, so he doesn't get any ideas. So Alexis agrees and so she tells Adam, makes it clear that Jeff is running Colby code in her absence. Adam doesn't look super thrilled by that but he meekly agrees because he's really got no choice if he's going to be put back in the will. And then Alexis tells Jeff that she has a full grasp of Adam's like psychotic personality and knows how to keep him in line. So I guess keeping him in line means threatening, constantly threatening, to cut him out of the well, I suppose.
Speaker 1:That's what I was thinking. I was like what else has she done to keep him really fallen out of line with her? But well, maybe she's kind of manipulating the fact that he loves her or that he wants her attention. So that's how I took it, Like she's never going to fully give him what he wants. Let me just string him along a little bit. I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think she kind of overreacted though, like when, okay, so Adam had that argument with Steven, and then she sort of walked in on it and then she, you know, so what did you call him the F word? And he said, no, I didn't do that which he didn't. And then she just freaks out out of the will, like it just seems like that's like an overreaction. I don't know, it seemed like an overreaction to that argument.
Speaker 1:And this is me forgetting about the death thing, because I thought that too like. This is where I thought she's unnecessarily mean to him, as if he like, as if he's her enemy and he doesn't appear to be. But if you can paint poison into the wall, I guess you do have to kind of that would be.
Speaker 2:the more pressing issue is that he was willing to poison him, probably to death, right, I mean, that was right. Well, he probably belongs like at the sanitarium with Claudia, like just to see if he can like get better.
Speaker 1:Yes, and you know the doctor well. I don't want to jump. They've mentioned this before, so it's not jumping the gun, but the doctor from Billings, yes, is like you know. Are you okay? Are you feeling okay? Are you having any episodes?
Speaker 2:Yeah, they reference the psychotic break that he had in Montana and then he experiment with drugs like. I don't know if it was the drugs like after the psychotic break or the drugs cause the psychotic break. I don't really, I'm not, but he describes like your eyes look a little too bright again, because I guess he went.
Speaker 1:I'm waiting for that snap because to me, the day that he got pissed and went and bought the can of paint, yeah, I thought maybe he was having another episode.
Speaker 2:But but it kind of went on for a while like any. He kept that. Yeah, so, yeah, so, okay, so, adam. So, speaking of Adam being psychotic, kirby is having a nightmare about Adam who somehow knows in the dream that she's carrying his baby, points out that Jeff is going to know if she delivers a full term baby after he thinks it's fun, but really like she's three months pregnant already. So she like sort of you know reading around in bed with this nightmare and Jeff comes into the bedroom and and kind of wakes her up and says you had a nightmare, what's it about? And she's like I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm going to say her part of the whole episode. I thought her, her version of Adam was awesome. What do they say? I can't wait to shove this in Jeff's holy, holy face that this is.
Speaker 2:It's like the. To me it's like proof that you like attack this woman like you shouldn't be so smug about it, right.
Speaker 1:I would think so, but he's also planted the seed down. I mean, dallas dynasty is very good about that. He planted the seed in Jeff's. I'm so confused with their office situation because anytime Kirby has gone to Colby co she's walked in the office expecting Jeff, but it's always Adam.
Speaker 2:Well, Adam's office. Like is she not walking into Adam's office?
Speaker 1:I'm so confused that thought. So too. I thought it's clearly Adam's. Surely they're not sharing an office like just not in the main office anymore because Alexis has it, so can't tell me there's not another office free in that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, a co owner would have his own life.
Speaker 1:I don't know if he's worried, but he told I know he done one episode. He told Jeff that he and Kirby had a pass. Jeff could take it one of two ways. You could remember that she was almost attacked by him and she's grossed out by him, or he's going to believe that she was wrapped up in a just I find that hard to believe that he could believe that he also.
Speaker 2:But Jeff also like remember when they were like Kirby and Adam were at some hotel in Colorado Springs and he was like being really creepy and coming on to her and she called her for help and he witnessed that.
Speaker 1:Right, right, that happens. It should be an easy style. She should easily be able to say hey, this is let's. Of course it's a soap opera, so they're going to drag it out a little bit.
Speaker 2:And at that point, like when he said, what's wrong with scaring you? She's like I don't know. It's like you know what, kirby, just tell him, screaming at the bottom, this is telling me at least like preempt any, like horrible surprise later that ends up being so much worse than it would have been. If you just like just explain it now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that maybe, at six months, is going to be very difficult. Well, I guess we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. Alright, guys, hope you are enjoying this interview as much as I am. This premiere was awesome. Eric is awesome, and don't forget to go check her out on television, of your calm. We'll have to wait and see, though. We'll see if Kirby can get away with this baby, okie doke. We'll see if Alexis the story pans out with Gary Ewing, the detective at large, and we'll also see what the rest of the cast is up to on the season premiere. Stay tuned for part two of the season four, dynasty premiere. In the meantime, in between time, take care of yourself, mind your own business, stay hydrated and make sure all of your drama is on TV.